# Natural error code 16: Unable to open buffer pool

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**Category:** Forum\
**Tags:** Adabas-Natural, Adabas, Natural\
**Created:** [March 29, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437 "2023-03-29T08:31:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Yong_Sam_Loh)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/1 "2023-03-29T08:31:52Z")

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#### What product/components do you use and which version/fix level are you on?

Windows Natural ver 6.3

#### Is your question related to the free trial, or to a production (customer) instance?

production

#### What are you trying to achieve? Please describe it in detail.

Investigated and checked found taht Natural program run but unable to log-out from the buffer pool.  
Many same user-id existed in the user buffer pool until access the limit defined.  
Please advise on how to exist from the buffer pool when the program run completed ?

#### Do you get any error messages? Please provide a **full error** message screenshot and log file.

Error 16: Unable to open buffer  
" too many users logged onto the buffer pool"

#### Have you installed all the latest fixes for the products and systems you are using?

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**Author:** ![Douglas\_Kelly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/douglas_kelly/32/102_2.png) [@Douglas\_Kelly](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Douglas_Kelly)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/2 "2023-03-29T18:51:29Z")

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If your users are able to open multiple Natural sessions, that may be why you are seeing the same user id multiple times - perhaps you just need a higher maxusers setting.  
I suggest that you open a support request with Software AG. Users logging off of Natural should normally be logged out of the buffer pool also. An upgrade to a current, supported version of Natural might also help.

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**Author:** ![Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Yong_Sam_Loh)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/3 "2023-03-30T04:27:53Z")

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Hi Kelly,  
Thank you for your prompt reply.  
I have trying to use “Backout transaction” and “terminate” command to exit from buffer pool, but look like is not working.  
Is there any Natural command that able to log-out from buffer pool ?  
How to clear or logging off the user from the buffer pool ?

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**Author:** ![Douglas\_Kelly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/douglas_kelly/32/102_2.png) [@Douglas\_Kelly](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Douglas_Kelly)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/4 "2023-03-30T04:47:28Z")

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“Backout transaction” is an Adabas command, nothing to do with the Natural buffer pool.

How high is your maxuser setting? have you tried increasing this value? As far as I know, you can only purge objects in the buffer pool, not users.

A support request to Software AG is probably your best bet.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_Zbrog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/ralph_zbrog/32/78_2.png) [@Ralph\_Zbrog](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Ralph_Zbrog)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/5 "2023-03-30T12:49:12Z")

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You can clear all users by bouncing the Buffer Pool. I’m running Natural 9.2.1, but the instructions should be the same.

. Open Natural Buffer Pool (i.e. natbpmong.exe).  
. NBP Menu bar → Bufferpool → Shutdown Server  
. START context menu → Computer Management → Services and Applications → Services  
. . restart SAG Buffer Pool Service via context menu or menu bar Actions  
. NBP Menu bar → Bufferpool → Connect

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**Author:** ![Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Yong_Sam_Loh)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/6 "2023-04-03T01:11:19Z")

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Hi Kelly,  
My MAXUSER is 60 users.  
I think the scheduled program was not terminate completely causing the same user-id occupied almost 1/3 of the total defined users.

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**Author:** ![Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Yong_Sam_Loh)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/7 "2023-04-03T01:22:41Z")

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Hi Ralph.  
Thank you for your reply.  
I think the instructions will shutdown the bufferPool completely. All the users will be affected?  
But i need to clear one particular user only (that one created many repeated same user in the Buffer pool).

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_Zbrog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/ralph_zbrog/32/78_2.png) [@Ralph\_Zbrog](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Ralph_Zbrog)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/8 "2023-04-03T18:22:54Z")

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Are you able to see that user’s instance(s) of NATURAL.EXE in Process Explorer (free from Microsoft)? Process Explorer can kill those instances.

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**Author:** ![Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Yong\_Sam\_Loh](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Yong_Sam_Loh)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/9 "2023-04-05T03:51:05Z")

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Hi Ralph,  
Look like it is working. Thank you very much.  
The repeated same user had been killed from the buffer pool, but the index number is not refresh.

Thank you.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/natural-error-code-16-unable-to-open-buffer-pool/276437/10 "2023-10-02T03:51:25Z")

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