# NCO001 - Dynamic parameters under Natural Complete **URL:** \ **Category:** Forum\ **Tags:** Adabas-Natural, Natural, Natural-on-Mainframes\ **Created:** [June 20, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781 "2012-06-20T21:42:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/john_smith/32/39012_2.png) [@John\_Smith](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/John_Smith)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/1 "2012-06-20T21:42:07Z")
Hi, At this moment, I am facing the process to install Natural on Complete and my experience is under CICS, however, according to the installation manual, I think it is not so difficult. I am reading the manual, and I noticed that the first step is to create a program to startup. There is an example that I am not going to change right now, but it seems that the users cannot change or enter any other dynamic parameter under Complete, because it is setting as: NCF822 STACK=(LOGON SYSTEM;MENU). So, if I want to enter with dynamic parameter under Complete, do I need to leave spaces (almost 65 blank space) instead of stack command? (I am not including the unique profile. ex: NCOPROF) tks. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/2 "2012-06-20T21:52:48Z")
The startup program is just a convenience thing, and it’s meant to bring users to a specific location with specific parms directly, you are still free to start NCF822 with any parms you require. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/john_smith/32/39012_2.png) [@John\_Smith](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/John_Smith)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/3 "2012-06-20T22:18:35Z")
Hi Wolfgang, the environment that I am using, it doesnt accept any dynamic parameter after NCF822, and I was assuming that the example nco001 is accepting only the stack command, none other parameter after NCF822 is possible to change the default parameters. Of course if I change any parameter in SYSPARM using NCOPROF, the parameters are changed. this is the reason that I suppose that if I change stack command to blanks, it would work. Before I do it, I would like to check with anyone if I am on right direction. tks. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/4 "2012-06-20T22:18:54Z")
That’s only the short story, of course, it’s also possible to read additional parms passed when invoking the frontend-programn and append them to the predefined ones… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/5 "2012-06-20T22:29:31Z")
The NCF frontend definitely allows for override parms, do you, by any chance, have them disallowed / restricted by the DYNPARM parameter in natparm ? Refer to [DYNPARM in the docs](http://techcommunity.softwareag.com/ecosystem/documentation/natural/nat822mf/parms/dynparm.htm) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/john_smith/32/39012_2.png) [@John\_Smith](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/John_Smith)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/6 "2012-06-21T01:20:36Z")
Hi Wolfgang, I am not using DYNPARM, the parameters in the natparm are the default. I understand that no parameter is being sent to Natural dynamically, because nco001 has a stack command, and after I type the NCF822 in Complete, the library SYSTEM is accessed, according to the example, this is the reason that I assume that everything after NCF822 is ignored. So, I will remove the stack command, and let see what happens, but this test I will do only after I complete some other tasks. anyway, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 8:27am UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/7 "2012-06-21T08:27:26Z")
Sorry, probably a misunderstanding here, what I mean is invoke NCF822 directly, from the terminal (i.e. from the COM-PASS menu in COM-PLETE), from what you say I assume you simply removed the parameters from NCO001 and still invoke NCF822 from there, i.e. you invoke NCO001, right ? If you want to use a frontend program like NCO001 and still have it accept override parms that program will have to be amended, if that’s what you want please let me know and I’ll dig up an example. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/john_smith/32/39012_2.png) [@John\_Smith](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/John_Smith)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/8 "2012-06-27T21:09:45Z")
Hi Wolfgang, you are right. Using NCF822, I am able to use any dynamic parameter, but when I use NCO001, that it is the frontend, the only string is used as parameter. tks for clarifying me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/9 "2012-06-27T22:13:12Z")
If you need a frontend combining static and dynamic parms … let me know. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/nco001-dynamic-parameters-under-natural-complete/100781/10 "2021-04-02T15:02:05Z")