# Switch off Syncsort for using Natural internal sort **URL:** \ **Category:** Forum\ **Tags:** Adabas-Natural, Natural, Natural-Utilities\ **Created:** [January 7, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035 "2013-01-07T19:22:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/1 "2013-01-07T19:22:13Z")
We have Natural nucleus build with Syncsort option. But we do not want to use Syncsort anymore. Is it possible to switch it off and use hereinafter the Natural internal sort? ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_Zbrog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/user_avatar/techcommunity.softwareag.com/ralph_zbrog/32/78_2.png) [@Ralph\_Zbrog](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/Ralph_Zbrog)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/2 "2013-01-07T23:22:10Z")
Turn it off for a specific job by specifying a dynamic Natural parameter (parameters on EXEC or within CMPRMIN): ```auto SORT=(EXT=OFF) ``` Or turn it off permanently via the NTSORT macro: ```auto NTSORT EXT=OFF,... ``` ---
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/3 "2013-01-08T12:32:22Z")
> [@Ralph Zbrog](#): > > Turn it off for a specific job by specifying a dynamic Natural parameter (parameters on EXEC or within CMPRMIN): > > ```auto > SORT=(EXT=OFF) > ``` > > Or turn it off permanently via the NTSORT macro: > > ```auto > NTSORT EXT=OFF,... > ``` Thanks Ralph for the quick response. I prefer permanent solution and have looked after NTSORT. As I see a new Natural Parameter Module has to be defined. I have read documentation but not clear how I should define, create it step by step. My Natural (V 6.1.1 Pl 14 Software AG 2005) runs on Solaris Unix. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/4 "2013-01-09T16:10:10Z")
You don’t need to define a new parameter module, just use the natparm utility to modify the one you are using. ---
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/5 "2013-01-09T16:23:56Z")
> [@Wolfgang Winter](#): > > You don’t need to define a new parameter module, just use the natparm utility to modify the one you are using. The problem is that there is no any SORT, NTSORT, _SORT_ related paramter in natparm. I try SEARCH, export all parameters and check it in VI editor but nothing. As I see natparm parameters looks like: [SECTIONx] PARAM1=YES PARAM2=NO [SECTIONx-END] How should I define NTSORT ? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/6 "2013-01-09T16:43:20Z")
Sorry, on OpenSystems the SORT library is linked to the nucleus, go to your $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin/build directory, issue a make and don’t specify sync=yes ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/7 "2013-01-09T17:33:02Z")
Just for your information. The SORT / NTSORT are for mainframe. ---
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:22pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/8 "2013-01-11T12:22:30Z")
> [@Mogens](#): > > Just for your information. The SORT / NTSORT are for mainframe. Thank You Mogens! ---
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/9 "2013-01-11T12:38:59Z")
> [@Wolfgang Winter](#): > > Sorry, on OpenSystems the SORT library is linked to the nucleus, go to your > $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin/build directory, issue a make and don’t specify sync=yes Thanks Wolfgang! So this is the only way on OpenSystems to switch off Syncsort. I’m not so familiar in the Natural nucleus rebuilding and for safety reason, I would like to save off (backup) the concerned or all current Natural system folders. What are would be? The Nucleus rebuilding will affect any Adabas components, folders? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/10 "2013-01-13T12:00:40Z")
> [@lajos](#): > > I’m not so familiar in the Natural nucleus rebuilding and for safety reason, I would like to save off (backup) the concerned or all current Natural system folders. What are would be? There is no need for a massive backup, a make natural will just build a new module named natural in $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin/buildYou can then test that new module from this directory, when you are happy with it issue a make install which will simply copy natural to $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin and rename the existing natural to natural.old, so if something does not work as expected you can easily rename the executable from natural.old to natural again. > [@lajos](#): > > The Nucleus rebuilding will affect any Adabas components, folders? No ---
**Author:** ![lajos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lajos](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/lajos)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/11 "2013-01-15T17:25:46Z")
> [@Wolfgang Winter](#): > > > [@lajos](#): > > > > I’m not so familiar in the Natural nucleus rebuilding and for safety reason, I would like to save off (backup) the concerned or all current Natural system folders. What are would be? > > There is no need for a massive backup, a make natural will just build a new module named natural in $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin/buildYou can then test that new module from this directory, when you are happy with it issue a make install which will simply copy natural to $NATDIR/$NATVERS/bin and rename the existing natural to natural.old, so if something does not work as expected you can easily rename the executable from natural.old to natural again. > > > [@lajos](#): > > > > The Nucleus rebuilding will affect any Adabas components, folders? > > No I managed to do it! Wolfgang special thank you, but the rest I learned a lot as well. Best regards! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/techcommunity/original/3X/c/d/cd19967bb605d28a72d77eb83a1cae22f3df2eb8.svg) [@system](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://techcommunity.softwareag.com/t/switch-off-syncsort-for-using-natural-internal-sort/102035/12 "2021-04-02T15:02:44Z")